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Sitecomparsion: whole site
09-13-2010, 02:38 AM
Post: #1
Sitecomparsion: whole site
Hi,

is it possible to show the whole site instead of the visible part in the browser?

Newspaper-sites have a somewhat long frontpage and testing them in the comparsion mode you will not get any movement, after the upper part of the site is complete.
Viewing the video and you see no changes, too.

My second issue:
If there is no way to show the full page, is it possible to add an icon or progressbar?

Thanks!

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09-13-2010, 12:26 PM
Post: #2
RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
Capturing video of the full height of the page isn't possible. It would slow down the actual loading of the page (pretty significantly). I sort of understand wht you're asking for regarding a progress bar but that would seem to completely counter the "visual" part of the visual comparison.

For argument's sake, for a long page like a newspaper, does the content below the fold need to be loaded as part of the initial delivery or does something like this make more sense: http://www.artzstudio.com/files/sonar/ ?
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09-13-2010, 04:29 PM
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RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
Ok, thanks for the answer.

This lib is interesting, i will discuss it and see if some customers see the benefit, but i am not sure if there are some trubble with SEO.

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09-13-2010, 09:30 PM
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RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
I tested the script on the page of a customer.
The code is not working in Firefox 3.6.8. Images are already fetched, did not getting it to work, even put the sonar.ion function all across the code, but firefox was still in front with loading the images ...

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09-13-2010, 10:43 PM
Post: #5
RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
Hmm, ping Dave Artz about it (http://www.artzstudio.com). I was more generally talking about the concept than necessarily that one execution and it shouldn't hurt SEO as none of the text is being pulled in by javascript (and for browsers that don't support javascript it shouldn't change how they see the page).

Is it possible you firefox testing is on a really fast connection close to the servers so the images load before the script has a chance to unlink them?

You'd probably want to play with the logic anyway and perhaps pull the content in at onLoad instead of waiting for the scroll but conceptually it's about getting the above-the-fold loaded as quickly as possible and lazy loading the content below the fold.
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09-24-2010, 04:48 AM
Post: #6
RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
Hi there, sorry for not getting back sooner, been on vacation. I have a newer version of Sonar available (one is a jQuery plugin) though I haven't heard of a Firefox issue with it. I really need to blog about it. If you could e-mail "dave [at] artzstudio.com" I'll hook you up.
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10-12-2010, 06:31 PM
Post: #7
RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
(09-13-2010 12:26 PM)pmeenan Wrote:  Capturing video of the full height of the page isn't possible. It would slow down the actual loading of the page (pretty significantly). I sort of understand wht you're asking for regarding a progress bar but that would seem to completely counter the "visual" part of the visual comparison.

For argument's sake, for a long page like a newspaper, does the content below the fold need to be loaded as part of the initial delivery or does something like this make more sense: http://www.artzstudio.com/files/sonar/ ?

Hi. I have a similar problem (http://www.vg.no/), capturing the full screen in video isn't necessary for me, but what would be very usefull having a screenshot of the entire frame instead of just the window. Like screengrab for firefox. Is that in some way possible in Internet explorer?
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10-14-2010, 03:46 AM
Post: #8
RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
By "entire frame" do you mean the browser window (status bar, etc) or the full length of the page within the browser? I've considered adding support to capture the full page at the end of a test but haven't had a chance to implement it yet.

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-Pat
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10-14-2010, 09:54 PM
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RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
(10-14-2010 03:46 AM)pmeenan Wrote:  By "entire frame" do you mean the browser window (status bar, etc) or the full length of the page within the browser? I've considered adding support to capture the full page at the end of a test but haven't had a chance to implement it yet.

Thanks,

-Pat

Entire frame as the full length of the page within the browser (have a look at our page page (http://www.vg.no) and weep :-))

But both are interesting. Since the windows screenshot might pick up pupups etc.

By the way. Would you be interested in a node in Norway?
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10-14-2010, 10:15 PM
Post: #10
RE: Sitecomparsion: whole site
Full length of the page is something I plan to do (though not sure how soon I can get to it). I'm used to pages like http://www.engadget.com so it's hard to make me cry :-)

A node in Norway would be cool, particularly if you would find it helpful. Check out the requirements (particularly the security considerations) here - http://www.webperformancecentral.com/wik...t_Location and let me know if you're interested.

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