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Never mind the webpages, how do you fix the business??
01-29-2013, 08:04 AM (This post was last modified: 01-29-2013 08:16 PM by hsiboy.)
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RE: Never mind the webpages, how do you fix the business??
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the link to the wallmart case study, I think awesome slide #3 was what i was looking for, such a simple metric, yet so powerful. If the penny doesn't drop after seeing that, then there is no hope.


(01-29-2013 06:43 AM)Chris Stark Wrote:  I would look at putting a dns or server log based analytics in place and comparing that with one javascript based analytics to see how far your drop off is from load times. The bigger the differential, the worse the problem is. If you can definitely say between dns request to your site and analytics tag triggering you're seeing an x% loss * income then you have a pretty strong argument for real ROI for making things quicker.

I also like using for RUM, if you setup the premium version you can actually correlate load times with conversion ratios. This further helps to put real numbers to the I just want things to be faster argument.

After I have these two things I can usually go to a c-level decision maker, say to them if I cut your site speed from 10 seconds to 3 seconds you're going to make X amount more money, it's going to cost you X amount to program the improvements and you're going to make a 500% return on investment in the first year. Even for mom and pop type places it's pretty simple to understand, here's my research, spend things in development, make this return, do you want to make more money? 9 times out of 10 it works for me. Some people are hopelessly dense and don't care thinking the internet is a waste of time, you're never going to convince those people of anything.

I have an example on my blog about how Walmart tackled the same question

Hi Andy,

Yeah, I know. I have their ear for sure, but there is something else, something I'm missing perhaps. Its black and white to me, and maybe that's part of the problem. Because its so clear to me, I'm not demonstrating it clearly enough to them.

RUM is on the table, but honestly, Gomez has done so much damage...


(01-29-2013 04:54 AM)andydavies Wrote:  Hi Stu,

I'm aware that I'm not a disinterested party but this is one of the situations where external consultants can help, whether it's someone like me or someone like Intechnica.

For some reason the views of external consultants often seen to carry more weight than those of internal staff (I've been there and know how frustrating it can be).

If you want to convince people to do things differently my advice is you've got to give them the business benefits e.g. use RUM to determine if people with faster experiences drive more revenue.

Unfortunately it's not uncommon to see masses of 3rd party tags on pages, many of them collecting similar sorts of data and in someways tag management services seem to be making this worse (out of sight out of mind I suspect)

Perhaps another place to start might be to establish what data it being gathered by each of the third-party tags and what the business is using it for, work out the overlaps and sell it to the rest of the company as a cost saving exercise i.e. they don't need to pay for both services and so removing one saves money and page weight.


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RE: Never mind the webpages, how do you fix the business?? - hsiboy - 01-29-2013 08:04 AM

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