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document complete vs. webpage response
09-12-2013, 10:43 AM
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document complete vs. webpage response
Hello,
Which metric is most important to give others the response time of a page? The document complete or web page response?

Thanks!
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09-13-2013, 05:39 AM
Post: #2
RE: document complete vs. webpage response
What are you defining as "web page response"? Pretty much all of the non-visual metrics suck which is why I've been pushing the Speed Index.
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09-13-2013, 06:04 AM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2013 06:08 AM by trx.)
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RE: document complete vs. webpage response
web page response is the time after all the onload events are triggered and completed.

Usually the webpage response is always 1 or 2 secs after the document complete.
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09-13-2013, 06:12 AM
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RE: document complete vs. webpage response
document complete is the same as the time when the onload event fired so if that's the metric you're looking for that's the one to use.
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09-13-2013, 06:17 AM
Post: #5
RE: document complete vs. webpage response
For this example:

http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130912_HQ_W7R/

Load time is 2.4
Fully loaded is 2.6

If I was going to tell my manager, how fast is the homepage, which metric would I use?
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09-13-2013, 09:26 AM
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RE: document complete vs. webpage response
(09-13-2013 06:17 AM)trx Wrote:  For this example:

http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130912_HQ_W7R/

Load time is 2.4
Fully loaded is 2.6

If I was going to tell my manager, how fast is the homepage, which metric would I use?

Maybe pick the metric that you deem most valuable and focus on optimizing it. I would report several. Page starts to render in... Page is interactive in... all objects are completely loaded in... Use the filmstrip ( record video when running test) feature to your advantage and show the render progress. "This is what the user sees over time..."
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09-13-2013, 09:30 AM
Post: #7
RE: document complete vs. webpage response
It just seems webpage test focuses more on the "load time" (document complete) metric more, so
I assume that is the metric which is widely used by everyone as the final say on how fast a webpage is.

Thanks for clarifying.
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09-16-2013, 10:53 PM
Post: #8
RE: document complete vs. webpage response
document complete is sort of the defacto time that everyone uses but it is far from the best metric for understanding the actual user experience: http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2013/05...ow-onload/
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12-18-2013, 05:18 PM
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RE: document complete vs. webpage response
Thanks!
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